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Post by normabanana on Jan 3, 2016 11:10:43 GMT
Blackton Cartoon
Do you know an dead American cartoonist, Blackton? Maybe he was not well-known in the world at that time. Today's many people in the world seem to know only Disney among dead and old animators. Anyhow watch this! I am surprised at the techinique that Blackton took a glass of wine and bottle of wine from a paper.
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Post by dash on Jan 3, 2016 14:00:38 GMT
Yes, I've watched this many times, and love it! I actually didn't know the name of the animator that had done it; I'm glad to learn his name. He certainly was an innovator. Have you watched Humorous Phases of Funny Faces? I like that one too.
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Post by normabanana on Jan 3, 2016 17:08:31 GMT
Yes, I have. And just watched again. It is really interesting drawing.
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Post by dash on Jan 4, 2016 18:09:43 GMT
This is one of my favorite classic cartoons from the 30's.
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Post by normabanana on Jan 5, 2016 16:03:56 GMT
Interesting! I seemed to watch Peace on Earth while watching the video you linked. Anyhow I cannot believe they are 1930s. Are far greater than early modern cartoons(1960s and 70s).
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Post by dash on Jan 5, 2016 16:19:27 GMT
Yes, the quality is much higher than in the later cartoons.
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Post by rmichaelpyle on Jan 5, 2016 16:34:25 GMT
Actually, J. Stuart Blackton was an Englishman, though he came to America when he was 10 and died in Los Angeles. His only animation was this small group of films from 1906. He's most famous as an innovative director. He's considered one of the truly great early producers, too. Along with another person, he founded American Vitagraph, one of the great early film companies. What's so ironic is that he died by being in an automobile accident that was hit by a bus! There's a pretty decent biography printed by Scarecrow Press written by his daughter and published in 1985. I bought it years ago and really enjoyed it. He was a fascinating guy, a true inventor and innovator, just like Thomas Edison, for whom, by the way, he worked for a while until they had a major falling out.
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Post by dash on Jan 5, 2016 18:47:18 GMT
Interesting information! Thanks. I've been reading Linda Arvidson's and Billy Bitzer's autobiographical books, and have seen a lot of references to the competition among Vitagraph and the other film companies in the early days in New York. I'm sure I've come across Blackton's name, but didn't make the connection.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 19:25:59 GMT
I read Linda Arvidson's book and enjoyed it but feel she deliberately left out a lot of stuff on her husband DW Griffith. If she was alive today and would write an autobiographical book she might have been able to be a lot more honest.
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Post by dash on Jan 6, 2016 0:53:49 GMT
Yes, indeed! There was obviously a lot she left out. She and Griffith's marriage was collapsing and they were separated during much of the time of her narrative, but nary a mention from her of anything in connection with that. I'm sure she left out much else, too. I enjoyed her book anyway, though. I think she did a good job capturing the excitement and sense of discovery they felt during those early Biograph years—and the fun they obviously had at times. I remember her mentioning that if you were to walk in off the street, you'd be welcomed into the studio to watch, with Bobby Harron likely as not looking about to find a chair for you. Wouldn't that have been something?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 3:32:31 GMT
I remember that too and it sounded like a dream. The only problem with hedging things in autobiographies is that the people reading don't really get a clear picture of people's lives for history's sake. A book like that might have been better written after his death. Writing it while he was still alive was probably pretty dicey and it would have backfired on her.
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Post by normabanana on Jan 6, 2016 12:27:08 GMT
Unfortunately Korean people know Disney is a father of animation. I praise him, but he is not first.
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Post by dash on Jan 6, 2016 14:06:54 GMT
Yes, he was a great one, but there were many fine animators who preceded him. I think a lot Disney's genius is due to Ub Iwerks, who worked with Disney as well as on his own.
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Post by normabanana on Jan 6, 2016 15:23:32 GMT
Really? I know that Disney developed Ub.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 16:21:57 GMT
UB in 1926.
Don't forget Max Fleischer's animations, too, like Gulliver's Travels. To this day I still enjoy watching that full feature cartoon. "All's well!" "It's a hap hap Happy Day!"
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